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Careers in Law: Q&A with Reginald Turner, President of the American Bar Association | Practical Law

Q&A with Reginald "Reggie" Turner, the President of the American Bar Association (ABA). Reggie is also a highly respected litigator, government affairs advisor, and labor and employment practitioner. He has practiced law at Clark Hill PLC in Detroit, Michigan for over 21 years. Practical Law Senior Legal Editor Jessica Cherry asked Reggie to describe his current role and to address the factors that have contributed to his commitment to bar association and public service work; the ABA's diversity, equity, and inclusion and legal professional well-being initiatives; and what legal organizations and individual attorneys can do to create a culture of belonging and well-being in the legal profession. This Q&A is part of Practical Law's Professional Development Series: Careers in Law.

Careers in Law: Q&A with Reginald Turner, President of the American Bar Association

by Practical Law
Published on 28 Jan 2022USA (National/Federal)
Q&A with Reginald "Reggie" Turner, the President of the American Bar Association (ABA). Reggie is also a highly respected litigator, government affairs advisor, and labor and employment practitioner. He has practiced law at Clark Hill PLC in Detroit, Michigan for over 21 years. Practical Law Senior Legal Editor Jessica Cherry asked Reggie to describe his current role and to address the factors that have contributed to his commitment to bar association and public service work; the ABA's diversity, equity, and inclusion and legal professional well-being initiatives; and what legal organizations and individual attorneys can do to create a culture of belonging and well-being in the legal profession. This Q&A is part of Practical Law's Professional Development Series: Careers in Law.
Education: J.D., University of Michigan Law School, 1987, B.A., Wayne State University, 1982.
Career in Brief: Reginald "Reggie" Turner is a highly respected litigator, government affairs advisor, and labor and employment law practitioner. Reggie is the current President of the American Bar Association (ABA). For more on the ABA's mission, see Box: About the American Bar Association. During his one-year term as ABA President, Reggie is continuing to practice law at the law firm Clark Hill PLC, where he has worked for over 21 years and where he serves on the firm's Executive Committee. Reggie is a member of the Board of Directors of Comerica, Inc, one of America's largest financial institutions, and Masco Corporation, a leading manufacturer of products for home improvement and home construction.
Reggie has previously served as:
  • Chair of the ABA Commission on Racial and Ethnic Diversity in the Profession.
  • Co-Chair of the Education Committee of the ABA Commission on Civil Rights and Social Justice Section.
  • Chair of the ABA House of Delegates Rules and Calendar Committee.
  • President of the National Bar Association.
  • President of the State Bar of Michigan.
  • President of the Wolverine Bar Association.
Reggie has also served in various capacities for numerous non-profit organizations, including:
  • The Detroit Public Safety Foundation (Past Chair).
  • The Community Foundation for Southeast Michigan.
  • The Hudson-Webber Foundation.
  • The United Way for Southeastern Michigan (Past Chair).
Reggie is listed in "Best Lawyers in America" and "SuperLawyers," and he is a Fellow of the American Bar Foundation, reserved to less than 1% of lawyers in each state. Reggie was named one of Michigan Lawyers Weekly's Lawyer of the Year for 2005, and has twice been named a Michigan Lawyer of the Year by Best Lawyers in America. He has also been recognized in Crain's Detroit Business Magazine's "Power Lawyers" and "Most Connected."

Can you provide a brief description of your current role and the work you do?

The ABA is the ultimate gathering place for lawyers who want to work together to address:
  • The needs of our profession.
  • The rule of law in the United States and around the world.
  • The education of leaders and the public about the law and their rights and freedoms.
As ABA President, I collaborate with the other members of the Executive Committee to:
  • Identify ways to serve our members and the public.
  • Improve the quality of the services we provide.
  • Advance the education of lawyers by providing high quality continuing education to lawyers across the country.
  • Create and continually update resources and tools addressing critical topics such as:
    • diversity, equity, and inclusion;
    • access to justice; and
    • culture and well-being.
Some of my specific duties and responsibilities as ABA President include:
  • Serving as the official representative and spokesperson for the ABA.
  • Serving as Chair and voting member of the Board of Trustees.
  • Appointing Ad Hoc Committees, such as the ABA Task Force on Legal Needs Arising from the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Pandemic that was created in 2020.
  • Serving on the Executive Compensation Committee and the Nominating Committee.
  • Presiding at the annual meeting Opening and Plenary sessions and all Board meetings, and working with the Executive Director, officers, and committee chairs to develop agendas for these meetings.
  • Representing the ABA at regional meetings, meetings with collaborative partners, and at high level meetings, such as those with the American Constitution Society, government agencies, and others.
  • Attending the National Leadership Conference.
  • Communicating regularly with the Executive Director to provide guidance, direction, and insight.
Although I have cut back my hours due to my ABA responsibilities, I continue to practice with Clark Hill PLC in Detroit where I:
  • Represent corporate and governmental clients in litigation regarding commercial, employment, labor, class action, and public policy matters.
  • Advise clients in the negotiation, drafting, and administration of labor and employment contracts.
  • Serve on the firm's Executive Committee.

What factors have contributed to your commitment to public service and Bar Association work?

Both of my parents were public servants. My father was a police officer, and my mother was a library aid. My father also volunteered in our community. So, in addition to being heavily disciplined and reading a lot, a commitment to public service was part of the fabric of our family.
I can trace my interest in Bar Association work back to a luncheon meeting that I attended when I was a young law student. Then-President of the State Bar of Michigan, Dennis Archer, met with several students and patiently answered our questions with quiet, thoughtful tones of professionalism. When I expressed my bewilderment regarding the path to success in the practice of law, he said that the single biggest influence on my career would be my adherence to the values set out in the lawyer's oath, in which we swear to:
  • Respect the courts and judges.
  • Practice law with integrity, civility, and concern for both paying and pro bono clients.
  • Never reject, from any consideration personal to ourselves, the cause of the defenseless or oppressed, or delay anyone's cause for lucre or malice.

How have your prior experiences prepared you for the role of ABA President?

While in law school I served as President of the Student Senate. And as a young lawyer I served as President of the Wolverine Bar Association, which was established by a number of African American attorneys during the 1930s to coordinate the energies and talents of the increasing number of African Americans admitted to practice throughout Michigan. The Wolverine Bar Association takes on a leadership role in community and political activities, including access to justice initiatives, so that role was a meaningful step towards where I am today. I also joined the ABA as a young lawyer and previously served as President of the State Bar of Michigan. I have also had many mentors within these and other organizations who helped me to understand the important principles of our profession and the importance of Bar Association work.

In the past few years, many legal organizations have expressed their commitment to creating a more diverse and inclusive workplace. Can you describe the ABA's work in this area and what resources are available to help legal organizations implement their D&I initiatives?

When there is strife or lack of inclusion in a workplace, it creates great anxiety, and hinders performance. It takes significant effort to create a workplace for lawyers that is free from bias, unwanted advances, and other barriers to lawyers providing the best services they can unimpeded. Our goal at the ABA is to create resources and develop programs that:
  • Bring people from different backgrounds together.
  • Build bridges instead of walls.
I was extremely fortunate to be serving as Dennis Archer's Michigan Supreme Court law clerk in 1987, fresh out of Michigan Law School, when he and Rachel Patrick were creating the ABA's first diversity, equity, and inclusion program. Together, Dennis and Rachel built the Commission on Opportunities for Minorities in the Legal Profession. This effort blossomed into what is now known as the ABA's Diversity and Inclusion Center (the D&I Center), which promotes collaboration, coordination, and communication to advance the ABA's goal of eliminating bias and enhancing diversity and inclusion throughout the ABA, the legal profession, and the justice system.
The D&I Center is comprised of the following ABA entities:
  • The Diversity and Inclusion Advisory Council.
  • The Coalition on Racial and Ethnic Justice.
  • The Commission on Disability Rights.
  • The Commission on Hispanic Legal Rights and Responsibilities.
  • The Commission on Racial and Ethnic Diversity in the Profession.
  • The Commission on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity.
  • The Council for Diversity in the Educational Pipeline.
  • The Commission on Women in the Profession.
The D&I Center also includes programs and training and other resources on various D&I topics.
This robust resource center grew out of the seed that Dennis Archer planted in the 1980s. In 2003, Dennis became the first person of color to be elected ABA President, but his groundbreaking D&I work started long before he assumed that title. It is very special for me to be leading the ABA, and following in the footsteps of my mentor, as we continue to build on the work that Dennis started so many years ago.

The ABA has also demonstrated its commitment to attorney mental health and well-being through various initiatives, including its Well-Being Pledge Campaign. What types of strategies have Pledge signatories implemented based on the ABA framework?

In order for lawyers to be as sharp and effective as possible, they must be mentally healthy and well. A wide swath of professions, including the legal profession, have increasingly recognized that mental health and substance abuse issues are a real concern. And in many cases, these issues have been exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic.
In September 2017, the ABA established the Working Group to Advance Well-Being in the Legal Profession and launched a campaign asking law firms, judges, state bar associations, law schools, and others to pledge their support and adopt the following seven-point framework (Well-Being Pledge):
  • Provide enhanced and robust education to lawyers and staff on well-being, mental health, and substance-use disorders.
  • Ensure that non-alcoholic and other alternate beverages are available at events.
  • Partner with outside providers who are committed to reducing substance-use disorders and mental health distress in the legal profession. This could include, for example, partnering with outside providers to create programming.
  • Provide confidential access to addiction and mental health experts and resources, including free and in-house self-assessment tools.
  • Develop proactive policies and protocols to support the assessment and treatment of substance use and mental health issues, including a defined back-to-work policy following treatment.
  • Show that the firm is committed to lawyers taking care of themselves and getting help when they need it by regularly and actively supporting programs to improve physical, mental, and emotional well-being.
  • Use the pledge and the firm's commitment to these principles to attract and retain the best lawyers and staff.
At last count, 199 legal employers have pledged their support for this initiative and taken concrete steps demonstrating their commitment. Pledge signatories have implemented strategies to:
  • Imbed well-being into the infrastructure of their organizations.
  • De-emphasize the expectation of alcohol at events.
  • Provide educational programming and resources around mental health, substance use, and well-being topics for their attorneys and staff.
Today, with remote and hybrid work arrangements further blurring the lines between home and work, and attorney burnout becoming an even bigger problem, it is critical for legal organizations to be more intentional in their approach to mental health and well-being.
For more on attorney well-being and the initiatives of the ABA's Working Group to Advance Well-Being in the Legal Profession, see Article, Attorney Well-Being: Q&A with (Former) ABA President Judy Perry Martinez.

What can legal organizations and individual attorneys do to create a culture of belonging that supports the well-being of all legal professionals?

Many legal organizations have created their own internal programs that focus on diversity, equity and inclusion, and wellness. In many (but not all) cases they start with the ABA framework and customize it to meet the unique needs of their organization. But things also work in reverse, that is, people experiment and create innovative new programs, bring them to the attention of the ABA, and we incorporate these ideas into our programming. We can all get so much valuable information and improve our programs by sharing and listening to each other.
Legal organizations must decide what their values are and live by them. Clark Hill, for example, has identified a core set of values that guide its interactions both with clients and within the firm. They call it the firm's DNA. These values, which include the encouragement of diverse perspectives and a commitment to the community, are infused into everything the firm does, including hiring. Based on my conversations with colleagues, many major law firms appear to be paying more attention to articulating and living their values.
To create a nourishing culture, it is also imperative that we treat each other with respect. Basic principles that we learn when we are children matter. Work well with others. Treat people the way you want to be treated. Say please and thank you. It is not that complicated.
Mentorship is another way to foster a sense of belonging. I have been privileged to have many wonderful mentors who have helped me to understand the principles of our profession and also given me the tools to help me help others. "Each one, reach one" is an expression I like to use to highlight the importance of mentoring others.

What have been the biggest challenges you have encountered in your legal career and how have you addressed them?

Like so many lawyers, I struggle with time management. There is no perfect answer to balancing career and family or other outside interests. And I don't always get enough sleep. When I was a young lawyer starting a family, I lived in Detroit, which was struggling. The automobile industry was shrinking, causing mass unemployment. And the homicide rate was so high that the press referred to it as the murder capital of the US. There was a lot of work to do, and I wanted to help improve the quality of my community.
At one point I was serving on 16 non-profit boards of directors. That was too many. I vividly recall attending my oldest daughter's graduation from high school, where she was giving a speech. When the person introducing her read off her accomplishments, I realized that I had missed many of them. I subsequently reduced the number of non-profit boards I served on to about five, which was more manageable.
My saving grace with respect to maintaining some semblance of balance is that I married well. When it comes to our family, my wife Marcia and I are a unified team. We share responsibilities and have spent a lot of time instilling our daughters with the values that we share through communication and, more importantly, how we conduct ourselves. Our daughters are now both in graduate school on academic scholarships, and we know that they carry those values with them, even when we are not physically present.
I still struggle with time management today, and I still probably do not get as much sleep as I should. I try to keep up my stamina with regular exercise.

If you were not a lawyer, what job do you think you would have?

As a kid I wanted to be a police officer, like my father. It was actually my father who steered me in a different direction. A longtime friend of his, Elliott S. Hall, was a lawyer, and had an extraordinary, groundbreaking career. Among other impressive credentials, Elliott Hall:
  • Represented members of the Black Panthers Party.
  • Served as President of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People's Detroit chapter.
  • Served as the first African American Chief Assistant Prosecutor for Wayne County, Michigan.
  • Served as the Ford Motor Company's first African American Vice President of Governmental Affairs.
  • Served as the Ford Motor Company's first African American Vice President of Dealer Development, where he was instrumental in the expansion of the Minority and Woman Dealer Network.
  • Served as a community advocate.
Elliott Hall epitomized many of the values of the profession. My father respected him a great deal, so much so that he wanted me to follow in his footsteps. Elliott Hall ultimately became a valuable mentor to me. Like Dennis Archer, he helped me to understand the principles of the legal profession, and the magnitude of being endowed with the public trust. Maybe I would have excelled as a police officer. But I think I ended up where I was supposed to be.

Is there any general advice you would like to share with those starting out in their legal careers?

It is important for attorneys and other legal professionals to give back to the profession. There are a host of ways to do that, such as:
  • Doing pro bono work.
  • Becoming actively involved in organizations like the ABA or local bar associations.
  • Serving non-profit organizations, for example, by serving on boards of directors.
Attorneys must not lose sight of the fact that this is a helping profession. Earlier I mentioned the oath that attorneys take when they are admitted to the Bar – the oath that Dennis Archer cited to me when I asked about the path to success in law. In addition to swearing to support the US Constitution and the Constitution of their State, and maintaining the respect due to the courts of justice and judicial officers, attorneys also affirm that they will not reject, from any consideration personal to themselves, the cause of the impoverished, the defenseless, or the oppressed, or delay any person's cause for lucre or malice.
I would encourage all attorneys, whether just starting their careers, or working in senior roles, to always keep that oath top of mind.

About the American Bar Association

The ABA is committed to serving its members, improving the legal profession, eliminating bias and enhancing diversity, and advancing the rule of law throughout the United States and around the world.
Serve Its Members
Provide benefits, programs, and services which promote members' professional growth and quality of life.
Advocate for the Profession
Promote the best quality legal education, promote competence, ethical conduct and professionalism, and promote pro bono and public service by the legal profession.
Eliminate bias and enhance diversity
Promote full and equal participation in the association and the justice system by all persons. Eliminate bias in the legal profession and the justice system.
Advance the rule of law
Increase public understanding of and respect for the rule of law, the legal process, and the role of the legal profession at home and throughout the world. Hold governments accountable under law. Work for just laws, including human rights, and a fair legal process. Assure meaningful access to justice for all persons. Preserve the independence of the legal profession and the judiciary.